Pick School Game 1: Conclusion
The night has arrived, music is faintly playing in the background and my laptop is as annoying as usual... I've just been playing two Ardm games in Pride.dota! The first game was really entertaining with a lot of random stabs, fights and kills. My omni swept down anyone who challenged him with his satanic + cuirass nothing could stop him!!! The second game was booring -.- so nothing to add there :D Won both though!
Allright, you have had your say! Eight heroes banned, ten heroes picked and a lineup that would somewhat cry out cookiecutter in our faces. But this is a good match to start with, and I will give you all my view of how the game may have been played. But first I'll summerise the picks!
Sentinel: fnatic
Bans: Tauren chieftain, rhasta, Dark Seer, Clockwerk goblin
Picks: Bane, Potm, Sand King, Shadow Priest, Slardar
Scourge: Aeon
Bans: Morphling, Batrider, Enchantress. Undying
Picks: Abbadon, Viper, Kunka, Lion, Tide
I'm believe that the strat you picked for fnatic was strat that is really strong in the hands of those players ^^ This is the kind of lineup we could play vs any team and any strat and still be able to win. Every single player has hero that they can play to its fullest and the lanephase will go well. By sending potm SK top we can be sure that all lanes will be able to handle on their own. I believe the best way for both teams to lane would be:
Top: SK, Potm vs Viper, Abbadon
This is a really even lane tbh, and even if people tend to think that abbadon + orb > all it is easy to underestimate the dual stun power of SK and Potm. Both also have great ways of escaping, but I believe that both sent and scourge will exchange about the same amount of kills and deaths while Viper is the one with the most cs.
Mid: Bane vs kunka
This should be an easy win for Bane imo, if a solo bane knows what he's doing there are not many heroes that would stand a chance here. Possibly the kunka will survive on the lane but he should be underfarmed if the Bane stays on lane.
Bot: SP, Slardar vs Lion, Tide.
This is prolly the lane that could look the most even, but I would much rather play the Slardar, SP lane than scourges Tide, lion. But since Aeon usually play really aggressive they could prolly be able to grab a few kills on this lane, but they wouldn't come out without losses.
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Even if it may sound that I find fnatics lineup to be much better, this is due to the fact that the heroes suit the team and It's not often Aeon plays a game as their lineup would make them do. Even if they are good at executing these strats they would loose a lot being kept into playing in one way. Their strat is stronger if consider hero vs hero and in 5on5 aswell. But I just believe that if Slardar get bkb and SK gets dagger its not much that will stop this gang combo, but I'm not really a fair judge :D It would be a game around 45 min long where it would be really tight all the time up until around 35 where we would fight with a Aegis on slardar, push and win!
What I would to see more of, is if you guys could pick something innovative, like a push strat etc, even if you don't know eachother! If the bans are just right, you could pick much much more than what people tend to do. For a team with less individual skill you should actually concentrate on these a bit different strats that you execute perfectly. This has been a reoccuring thing in the DotA scene, where a team wins a whole tournament, much cause of the strenght of the strat and playstyle. It's very important to pick the right hero for the right person etc!
Secret tip of the day is to farm the lanes in swift manner, but still concentrate on landing almost all the creeps. This is the easiest with heroes like SF, Potm, Qop etc. Get all creeps down low enough so they will die from a juke and then push the lane. This is mostly used in mid-game where the outer towers have fallen, but it's mostly better to just push out and then move around the map, than getting stuck on your lane lasthitting every single creep!
now come with thoughts on my view of the game etc
Cheers
Maybe you could do a part pick/ban, say ban 8, scourge picks 2, sent picks 3, time for scourge/commentators to pick - figure out best way to counter. Or build a preset team and have the commentators throw up a couple of teams, and you comment on the ones you think would work most.
Or even get the other lazy bums on dingblog to update their blogs and have them captain picking for EG/Ravens in one of these, 5 min tops :)
PotM (Lane)
Sf (Lane)
NA (Lane)
Sand King & Lina (Constantly roam)
It'll be fun to see constant roam-kills and I think it is pretty viable. Three solid solo heroes coupled with strong spells should make kills rather easy. Maybe you could vary the roamers to VS, ES, Lion etc.
Or you could send a CM, Axe, and BM to cut the lane. Axe picks up most creep kills and BM spawn Spiderlings in one creep to attack the hero/heroes at the first tower. I miss you guys' global strat. Epic. :D
Cheers. Nathan.
Cheers. Nathan.
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BANS - Undying, ES, TC, Clock
PICKS - Omni, Wl, Rhasta , Krobe, Brood
I was thinking;
TOP - Krobe + Wl
MID - Rhasta
BOT - Brood + Omni
The healers should babysit the pushers, and when Krobe + Rhasta reaches lvl 6 or 7, they should start push with Wl and Omni. When they push 1 lane, lets say TOP, Brood will spawn 1 million spiderlings and push the BOT tower.
As soon as Krobes and Rhastas ultis are rdy again, they push another lane with the healers.
I was thinking Omni and Warlock because of repel on Krobe / brood in late, and warlock cuz of heal spell, but also Infernal.
Comment please, this was just a thought.
There also wasnt any counter picking by 'aeon'...since potm, slardar are so popular picks for fnatic what do u think Aeon would pick against that?
shes a really strong hero, shes a good ganger with her ss, with wave and screem she deals much damage in clashes and shes good in early, mid and lategame
When it comes to the pushstrat u wrote down, I would say it's much too weak at the lanes. The synergy of the team is not that great, and it clearly lacks in stuns. Next lesson at picking school will be about picking a pushstrat or sum while tricking the opponents that you are picking something else! I will take the time to pick a whole teams heroes by myself while you guys pick the opponents! But more about this tonight or tomorrow!
Cheers!
you pick a replay, that is in your opinion a very balanced game (in picks for example) and then simple analyse picks & bans (what should they have picked insted of X, what the have forgotten to ban and so on).
It may be much harder to do, because every team has it's own picking way, but I think I (and others ofc :D) could learn a lot from it.
GL & HF !
Lanes would be (Scourge side)
Naga, bane top
Rhasta mid
WD, Ck bot
I mean bane probably isnt the best babysit but i find it suitable, between Net/nightmare
as far as team sycnhs go i think its great. Imagine pushing a lane, Ck ulti, naga mirrow, rhasta ward? that would take down towers fast, not to mention naga can ulti to sleep the oppenont while they take tower or rax. Considered Naga's Sleep IS HUGE
While Ganking also Naga could net, rhasta ward around the person. Bane and rhasta bot have holds, which help alot with ck and naga illusion. not to mention rhasa and bane alone have mass disable, through Witch doctor in there with chain stun and maledict, it be quite chaotic. now people might say theres easy counters to such things, like maybe tide hunters ulti or silencer or somekind of big aoe spells. but thats what bans are foR! I hope this was innovative enough loda!
abba firstpick
axe, warlock next
brood, furion for last picks.
maybe axe could skip tower and push it very fast.
and the first 3 picks are totally common and noone will see what you wanna do.
bans would be bane rhasta TC and ES.
the many summons would burst the ES ultimate too much
buggy dingblog?
but its the truth.
good luck with ur life!
picks: krob mid, naga + wl top(if sentinel), visage bot, enigma jungle. Wl starts... them naga ult... enigma get a really nice position... would it be a nice push team?
would be fun to meet you in an inhouse!
During this time,you have got some trouble about dota,including how to play well in this edition.But I believe you will play better with some efforts.You're still the best dota player in the world,I think.
I heard that you would leave from Fnatic with your guys.I hope you and your guys get good chance soon.
I think you will give us perfect performances soon.
good luck to you~
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